What if the biggest leadership challenge today isn’t strategy, talent, or even technology? What if it’s uncertainty. Why are traditional leadership models breaking down? What is the difference between leading with authority and leading with trust? Why, in today’s environment, is leadership less about control and more about courage. Join host Michael J.Keegan as he explores these questions and more with Pete Behrens, author of Into the Fog: Leadership Stories from the Edge of Uncertainty.








The Business of Government Hour is a weekly conversation with government executives and thought leaders who are changing the way government does business. Host Michael J. Keegan speaks to guests about leadership, public management, innovation, and their vision of government in the 21st century. Interviews are informative, insightful, and in-depth conversations on topics & trends at the intersection of government, technology, and leadership.